a few astro notes on Gov. Scott Walker

Gov. Scott Walker
Nov. 2 1967

natal planetary positions
Sun 8 52 Scorpio
Moon 5 25 Scorpio
Mercury R 8 03 Scorpio
Neptune 23 31 Scorpio

Venus 22 09 Virgo
Pluto 22 04 Virgo
Uranus 27 27 Virgo
Jupiter R 2 03 Virgo

Mars 7 19 Capricorn

Saturn R 6 50 Aries
NN 27 56 Aries

Chiron R 25 50 Pisces

Moon is combust and in its fall,
Mercury is combust and retrograde,
Venus is in its fall and is five minutes (not degrees... minutes) from Pluto... it happens to also be more like five degrees from Uranus,
Saturn is in its fall and retrograde... but it is in mutual reception with an exalted Mars... and that exalted Mars is dispositing every other planet in his chart.

Mars represents how we go about getting the things we want. Exalted planets behave as if the red carpet has been rolled out for them (this only applies to the nature and business of the planet more than the person's experience of it). The individual does not always pay as high a price for their pushing of boundaries w/ regard to that planet, but those around them are aware of it. So basically Mars in Capricorn is used to getting his way, and back by fixed Scorpio energy is poised not to budge.

Sabian symbols:
8-9 Scorpio (Sun and Mercury - conscious mind and communication)
a dentist at work
5-6 deg Scorpio (Moon - subconscious and what nurtures the person)
The Gold Rush Tears Men Away From Their Native Soil

7-8 Capricorn (Mars - how one goes about getting what they desire)
in a sunlit home domesticated birds sing joyously

25-26 Pisces (Chiron - the wound that won't heal)
watching the very thin moon cresent appearing at sunset, different people realize that the time has come to go ahead with their different projects

6-7 Aries (Saturn - blocks, boundaries, father, structure)
a man succeeds in expressing himself simultaneously in two realms


I'd go so far as to suspect that Gov. Scott Walker considers his mission divinely ordained, and that he believes that he has God on his side.
He is used to getting his way, and is also used to being allowed to use any means necessary to that end.

I am quite sure that he is shocked by these protests, and how he's been unable to just sweep them away simply with his persistence.
When Gov. Scott Walker split the bill to push through dismantling collective bargaining rights by avoiding a need for a quorum, transiting Pluto was only 4 minutes (of arc, not time) from his n. Mars.  This is a profoundly testing moment for his Mars, in regard to him testing what he thinks he can get away with.But by over stepping his level of power, he might only prove to give the power to the other side for their efforts to have him recalled, for there is much talk of him having pushed this vote illegally. Pluto will be retrograding over this point, and w/ retrogrades the theme is "re-", as in "re-do"... though, re-call (him or his actions) would also fit.
*** on March 11th, Pluto will do its pass over his n. Mars.  This is also the day that Uranus enters Aries.  I would expect escalation in Walker's response, as well as the anger of the protesters.

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Gov. Scott Walker was elected on Nov. 2 2010. This was also his 43rd birthday/solar return.

planetary positions:

Sun 9 27 Scorpio
Moon 12 07 Virgo
Mercury 19 21 Scorpio
Venus R 3 08 Scorpio
Mars 3 23 Sagittarius
Jupiter R 23 58 Pisces
Saturn 11 35 Libra
Uranus R 27 08 Pisces
Neptune 25 55 Aquarius
Pluto 3 23 Capricorn
NN 4 21 Capricorn
Chiron 26 04 Aquarius



The fact that Venus was retrograde and in Scorpio (its detriment) on this day, it is important to consider Nick Dagen Best's work on Venus retrograde cycles and how they link to cycles of injustice.
http://www.myspace.com/stellardweller/blog/310162382

sabian symbols
9-10 Scorpio
a fellowship supper reunites old comrades

3-4 Scorpio
a youth carries a candle in a devotional ritual

and the moon at 12-13 Virgo
a powerful statesman overcomes a state of political hysteria

3-4 deg Capricorn (Pluto)
A Group Of People Outfitting A Large Canoe At The Start Of A Journey By Water

  4-5 deg Capricorn (NN)
Indians On The Warpath. While Some Men Row A Well-Filled Canoe, Others In It Perform A War Dance


May 4th/5th - Saturn retrogrades over 11 39 Libra, Sun and Moon in Taurus, opposing Walkers n. Sun, Moon, Mercury and Neptune. The Moon is exalted in Taurus.
Venus, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter and Uranus are all in Aries.
I think this will be the point at which the subject of "recalling" Walker is formally brought to the table, and/or formal attempts to appeal the laws he sneakily has pushed through, or even charge him w/ breaking the law to accomplish this.
Also pointing to this idea is that on this day Pluto, which was conj. his natal Mars when he pulled the "sneaky move", will be retrograde at 7 19 Capricorn.

by May 19th the conjunction of Venus, Mars and Mercury will be in early Taurus opposing the retrograde Venus at the time of Walker's election... this is a stress producing testing point... the Sun will be in the late critical degrees of an earth sign (Taurus) hinting to a fixed determination intent on tangible results. Uranus in Aries will be at 3 30, adding stimulating energy to the business shared by all signs at this degree. It is in a 12th house relationship to Venus and Mercury which adds to the idea of something being "undone".

July 21st/22nd - Saturn makes its final pass over this point (11 39 Libra)
On the 21st, the Moon and Uranus are conjunct on Walker's n. Saturn.
This would be the time for balancing the scales. My guess would be a day in court for those that want Walker recalled.
Ultimately, this Saturn transit is in Libra... Venus's house.
When Venus was in Taurus, she gained some strength. My guess is that the people will win. At this time, she is in Cancer, the Moon's house, so she probably holds some sway with the Moon. Cancer is representative of the mom archetype, and what makes us feel securely nurtured. I think one of the subjects on the table for Walker at this time will be his relationship with those who have fiscally supported his campaigns.

Jan. 11, 2012 - Pluto makes its final pass to Walker's n. Mars
Uranus will be back in very early Aries where it is about to enter March 11 this year... echoing back to the moves he has made this week.
Mercury will be at 3 59 Capricorn... in between the conj. on the NN and Pluto on the day of Walker's 2010 election.
Mars will be at 22 05 Virgo conjunct Walker's natal Venus and Pluto
Saturn will be at 28 50 Libra... the critical degrees of completion.

I believe that Walker will be recalled after his first year in office.
But, I won't be surprised if those that support him offer him another path.

thoughts on those attempting to debunk astrology...

I am constantly surprised at how much energy many of those that dismiss astrology will expend to attempt to debunk it. It seems driven by either frustration or downright anger that those that see connections in astrology can't stop seeing them... that there is no way of convincing them of their error in seeing a syncronicity between the positions of planets and the seasons, with things here on earth.

From science's perspective, when it was discovered that the earth revolves around the sun instead of the sun around the earth, astrology should have quietly disappeared in shame. But, much to the dismay of many who find comfort in the solidity of science in lieu of all else... it hasn't.
In fact... it has strongly persisted like a pesky illegitimatized little brother.
Even regular bullying hasn't worked to make it disappear.

It might be a good idea to question why.
Why does astrology continue to persist despite the efforts of so many armed w/ science to bring it down?

What has not put those attempting to debunk astrology on strong footing, is that they have had a history of lacking an adequate level of knowledge on the subject they are arguing against. It has seemed that most have little more than a sun sign column awareness of the existence of astrology, and that they lack a complete realization that this is the equivalent to saying that identification of a few constellations comprises the entire study of astronomy.

If the person attempting to debunk astrology is doing so merely w/ a sun sign column level of knowledge of astrology, they are poorly up for the discussion.
Sun sign columns are but one (in my opinion, broad stroke) use of astrology.
The list of applications is long. There are medical astrologers and financial astrologers (yes, who even invest their own money based on what they see).
Of course there is the catch... to apply astrology to something such as the financial markets, one must first be an expert in both astrology as well as financial markets.
There are different approaches to astrology, and each requires more study than is realized by most to master. And as in any field, individuals hold varying levels of expertise.

Many on the side of science might say that those who "believe in" astrology must range from being slightly touched to being full blown whacky nut-jobs of the airy fairy persuasion.
Sigh... this is mere ad hominem attack, which is a common (wrong) way to attempt to dismiss an opponent in a debate.
It holds no weight toward actually dismissing astrology.

The root meaning of the word 'science' is knowledge, but at this point in time science only validates knowledge that fits into a very limited scope.
Over time, "scientific method" has been established as a way to create a consensus on "facts", and this scientific method has become the basis for the argument against astrology.
The problem with this is that it is limiting.
It actually inspires dismissal of many of the subtle patterns in life right around us that can't be appropriately limited and contained to be measured and quantified for study. In fact, if something cannot be adequately contained and controlled in order to limit the variables, it cannot even be studied by "scientific method" in any accurate manner. For this reason, science has grown quite expert at studying death, but it is not as great at studying life. Even our medical students at top universities such as Harvard and Tufts only get pieces and parts of the body to study at a time. They never approach the body as a whole, and this does mean that they are actually studying death.

Very often, 'life' knowledge is brushed off as "old wives tales" or crone's knowledge, yet it is also connected to something deeper than book knowledge... wisdom.
Although wisdom maybe yet another thing which can't be measured or quantified, somehow we know it when we see it.
I'm sorry to have to rock the security of those that consider science their god... but, there are things that are real and have validity that cannot be measured and quantified by scientific method. Love happens to be my personal favorite.

On the subject of whether to "believe in" astrology or not... informed decisions require actual investigation. I would challenge anyone to genuinely explore astrology beyond sun signs. By all means, investigate the cycles of the outer collective planets and the cycles of human history, as well as one's own personal natal chart.

Some will realize that astrology is an archetypal language which is a tool for describing the cycles in the universe around us. Some may not. Some may not be able to let go of the question of causality. Do the planets "cause" the things we experience, or is it just the synchronicity of the Hermetic law "as above so below, as within so without"?

I can only speak for myself on this subject. I see the repeating patterns and I consider the Hermetic Law like a litmus test. I'm not convinced the planets are causal, and I'm happy to leave proving or disproving such things to science. It doesn't matter in my opinion, because either way I find comfort in the synchronicity that I do see in astrology.

Venus carries an Ax?... Duck Duck Goose!

Many astrologers are surprised when they learn that in Vedic astrology, Venus is known as the brahman with the ax.

Yet the dynamics of a childhood game, which many of us played, may offer some insight to the reasoning.
If we were to use the game, "Duck, Duck, Goose", for our analogy...
Venus does the choosing, so she is "it".

Sizing up the circle, she skips around making a choice as she passes each potential goose...
'duck' (chop)... 'duck' (chop).... 'duck' (chop)...

and when she finally finds her 'goose'... she taps him on his shoulder (flirts)...
he (Mars) chases... he is programmed to do this after all.
To win, he much catch Venus.
If Venus gets away, she plops on her butt... (with ben and jerry)
and Mars loses his chance at that 'tail'.


Of course, planetary dignity affects the game, either by affecting the ability to distinguish types of fowl, or the willingness to follow the rules of the game.

Venus in poor dignity might be want to choose more than one goose at a time, or she might prefer to turn around and be the first to plant a kiss on her chosen goose, forgetting his need to chase.

Mars in poor dignity might vacillate not wanting to sweat or mess up his clothes, or glance to his mommy for approval prior to taking action. 


Little did we realize when we were children that our games were practice.

Poetry Corner: Signs Along the Journey

Baby screams to enter this world
from fetal place it now must uncurl
warriors shields, arrows unfurl...
Aries can't fathom to fight like a girl

Stop the fighting and begin to dance
through growth and change we do enhance
we learn life's pleasure's in love perchance
as Taurus nurture's nature's plants

Gemini heralds, "It's a race!"
He sure does warn of life's fast pace
always moving from place to place
collecting knowledge, "just in case"

In Cancer's pool reflects the moon
the dish came back, but where's the spoon?
Illusions broken and not too soon
yet mother's love stays in full bloom

Sir Leo knows that he's the king
so warmth and joy he knows to bring
he'll play and teach us all to sing
he'll also burn if you dare cling

In servitude there is a joy
when we get over feeling coy
Our higher self we now employ
Virgo can't treat life like a toy

To only give will make one sick
with Libra comes a balance trick
grace and beauty, not one nick
charming and gracious, very slick

The changes make your roots feel shook
learn not to be an open book
but into others one can look
'tis the rule in Scorpio's nook

From looking in we next explore
across toward the farthest shore
to be confined one would abhor
down to the Sagittarius core

Come back to earth and blow your horn
"get to business" says Capricorn
from solitude a wisdom born
through our hard work the world's adorned

Now tied to earth and in a bind
we try to free our lightening mind
in Aquarius, a truth we find...
diversity is still life's same kind

Lastly into Pisces we slip
where to meld we would gladly clip
our wings, to taste of God one sip
before we're ready for the next trip

The 12th House "She Did it Backwards and in High Heels."

My first official blog written with the intent to publish, dedicated to my lovely Leo friend Neeti Ray. Thank you for your inspiration!




The Mist

The house of self undoing...  the house of prisons...  the house of personal enemies.
These are undoubtedly rather intimidating images. 
There is something very unsettling about the loss of control associated with them, much like fear of the unknown. We are told that there are gems to be found in this house, but that they can be hard to find due to the murkiness and lack of clarity associated with this house. We are warned that it will require work or loss of some sort.

The time of day when the Sun transits the first house are the first couple of hours of dawn, starting when the first edge of the sun is visible on the eastern horizon. Both at dawn and at dusk, the Sun creatively lights the sky with spectacular color, due to the light needing to travel through a much greater distance of atmosphere. The difference being that at dawn, the sun's light also has to pass through and evaporate the morning moisture left from the previous night.  



I like this image for how it offers hints to the 12th house: 

*The mist of evaporating morning dew hints to the sense of cloudiness or murkiness, which is why the 12th house is often described as similar in nature to the sign of Pisces and the planet Neptune. Though, I try to steer away from  completely conflating houses, signs and planets, as I also want understand what differentiates them.

*The mist can be seen as ghostly, just as the 12th house is often linked to ghosts from the past. If we were to put it in literal terms of when we were born, it is the time during which the baby is traveling the birth canal, making the trip between the world of the womb and this world. This portal theme is also seen when we consider that the 12th house marks the transitional trip between where we give our gifts away in the 11th house, and the 1st house/ascendant which marks the beginning of a new cycle.

*Dawn is a private time of day. Few rise early enough to welcome and view it along with the morning songbirds. In this same manner, things in the 12th house are not worn on the sleeve in full view of everyone. They are not on public display.

*There are hints to hard work in the Sun's need to burn off the excess moisture, while extra effort is also required  to try to "shine" through that extended trip through the atmosphere. 

*And the special colors do appear. There is promise of a unique brilliance for the hard work.


Prison vs. Work

I see many debates between astrologers about the line between free will and fate. When we start learning how accurate astrology can be, many question where the line is between what is fated and what is within our free will. We know the planets are not causal, so I'm not sure it even matters. Nothing can happen in our lives without our active participation. Simply put, this means that we are still responsible for our choices. 

If we are making choices to break laws, the 12th house theme of prison can be literal.  Despite this, I find a more accurate theme would be "things that take us away". This would include prisons, monasteries, hospitals, and even banks. In fact, it isn't uncommon for someone with 12th house planets to work in such places. Even working night shifts can be seen as taking the person away from "normal" daily activity.

But, let's consider the self-imposed cloistering of dedicatedly tucking oneself away to practice and polish one's own unique shine. In this case, the space where one practices their art and does their research has the potential of becoming what we'd call their sacred space. It becomes a space in which the person has the opportunity to learn to connect to finding peace in being alone in one's own skin, maybe one of the more valuable personal gems to be found.

That being said, it might only be fair to note that like the reluctant hero archetype running away from his destiny, it isn't unheard of for people to find spiritual gems while in prison. While in comparison, the search for spiritual gems actually is the conscious intent of entering a monastery.

12th house in Synastry - Smoke Gets in Your Eyes

"Remember, Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but she did it backwards and in high heels."

Fred Astaire had his ascendant at 12"12' Sagittarius, putting his descendant in dual-bodied Gemini. His main collaborator for choreography was a man named Hermes Pan, and his best known dance partner was Ginger Rogers, whose Gemini ascendant was within 2 degrees of his descendant, at 14"10'. 
Fred Astaire's natal chart
Ginger Roger's natal chart

The ascendant marks the first house, and as such the mask we wear, and this extends to the mask our soul's wear while on earth... our bodies. This mirroring of one another's ascendants and descendants speaks beautifully to the mirroring of one another that they demonstrated in their dancing.  But, anyone who has taken any sort of partnered dancing lessons knows that such perfection of this art doesn't just happen over night. It takes following the directions "to get to Carnegie Hall.... practice, practice, practice."

Fred Astaire's creative Sun is conjunct Ginger's 12th house Taurus Saturn by 2"1'. 
He was known for his intensely demanding practice schedule, yet he was also able to see and appreciate her saturnian self-containment and determination in the face of pressure. Noting  that Astaire's own Saturn was in his 1st house, I'm quite sure he respected her a great deal for this quality.

"In 1986, shortly before his death, Astaire remarked, "All the girls I ever danced with thought they couldn't do it, but of course they could. So they always cried. All except Ginger. No no, Ginger never cried"" (1)

"Astaire also had this to say to Raymond Rohauer, curator at the New York Gallery of Modern Art, "Ginger was brilliantly effective. She made everything work for her. Actually she made things very fine for both of us and she deserves most of the credit for our success.""(1)


Every single on screen dance between Fred and Ginger represents many dedicated hours hidden away in a dance studio. But it was because of those hours in that dance studio that the potential in the synastry was polished to the perfection expressed in their dance performances.

Fred and Ginger - Smoke Gets in Your Eyes



K.N. Rao - A Chrysalis in a 12th house Cardinal Grand Cross

"An American summed up the impact of the first ever foreign visit of Rao to the USA in 1993 as, “Vedic astrology before Rao and after Rao”." (2)

Kotamraju Narayana (K. N.) Rao has an especially interesting chart for us to look at right now, considering it contains a cardinal grand cross with Saturn, Uranus, and Pluto each standing guard of one of the corners. The fourth and final corner is busy with his Libra Sun, Moon, Mercury and Venus.  It is this fourth corner that also resides in the 12th house of his natal chart. Using placidus house system, Mercury is about 4 degrees before the 12th house cusp, giving it some 11th house flavor.
K.N. Rao's natal chart

While looking into Rao's life for this blog, I was struck by the limited amount of information actually available about his life, not to mention that it seems quite controlled, leaving an air of mystery. Outsiders are left to guess. This speaks to both of his luminaries and Venus being fully in the 12th. Despite being so well known, this is a very private person. I would wager that only very close confidants get to hear stories of a genuinely personal nature, and even then they probably do not get all of the details.

His Scorpio ascendant with Mars fully in the first house shows us the intensity and relentlessness with which he pursued his studies. He was able to collect more than 50,000 charts with at least 10 events for each individual noted, while also maintaining a government career which he earned in part due to his ability to lecture in English. It could be said that both this job, as well as his studies. "took him away from" tradition. His job even helped him build his numerous American connections with whom he also shared his knowledge, and the 11th house flavor to his Mercury shows us his desire to share his knowledge. The t-square in his chart speaks to his willingness to break tradition. I am sure he took some heat for this, yet I'm also sure that his detractors were willing to brush their past criticism under the rug once the gems in his work came to light.


"The strain of doing astrology as a mission, not charging any fee, almost made him give up astrology many times. But in December 1981, he was forced out of his shell to participate in a three-day seminar on astrology in Delhi. After this ground breaking speech, there has been a persistent demand for his astrological articles." (2)

This description of Rao speaks to his 12th house energy in so many ways. He subjected himself to hardship due to his choice to approach astrology as a mission and not accept money. When I consider Rao's dignified Mars conj. Scorpio ascendant, I sincerely doubt that being overly shy is the reason that Rao needed to be "forced out of his shell," and would consider his ability to amass such a respected collection of charts as proof. His self-imposed shell was more like the shell of the chrysalis, hiding the caterpillar away as it changes into a butterfly. When Rao stepped out of his shell, he was ready to display the highly polished shine that had developed from all of that work behind the scenes.

With the Sun (father) and Moon (mother) in the 12th, it is important to note Rao's parents. His father was a very well known journalist, and his mother was a respected astrologer in her own right. He considers his mother the best astrologer he has known on the subjects of marriage and children and prashna (horary). If he felt a sense of loss or hardship in his relationships with them, it isn't spoken of and we are left to speculate. I'm sure that at least it could be said that both set the bar high for him.


Ghosts from the Past

Ghosts can take many forms, from elusive nightmares, our perceptions of abandonment or not being good enough, the unresolved emotions that we tuck neatly away, to the hidden influences of our past ancestors on who we are and the lives we are leading. Like the monsters that haunt childhood closets, any fear we may have about confronting them only seems to add to their mysterious power over us. We build them up in our minds, making them far more hideous and ferocious than they are in reality.

When we finally face our ghosts, and the layers of mist begin to evaporate, we find our gems. Our ghosts can become our guardian angels whispering in our ears like Mr. Miagi from "the Karate Kid", "wax on, wax off". We may not always be conscious of exactly where our work may take us, but we learn to trust the process. When the night seems lonely, we can learn to take comfort knowing this too shall pass, and that dawn will return.

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credit for "dawn" photograph
dan

Image: dan / FreeDigitalPhotos.net

Ginger Rogers
(1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginger_Rogers


Ginger's chart - Rodden rating AA
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?wgid=wgeJwlTsEKwjAU-xpvT-irWp3lHTwNBREU8dzZrhu6OtaOsr_3jRFIIIQkuf20JLXvyKAOlu4_74YIZRtYoQZUsAcsEEHIIx6gURn8GEHAOVjXO6bwdisprjd4Pk5QbLPcwaYIQsHIKYY2tgqmc7SUcnYZmX1rkiNU7F3G78QyT-kqTT2f6lJDJmXdxInWqIdI-Cr_wpk2UA

Fred's chart - Rodden rating AA
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?wgid=wgeJwtTsEKwjAU-xpvEfqGHc7yDjuoJ_Ug4vmNlnVIi6wdZX9vBxLIIQlJyvSZuDFjYCETLfcpyzQ7XGZnEUAKGnTsOjR0oha-LRiXBIVHEC-7Rt3PeD17dLroFgeKpLFUu8KIHaIEx1tXTf6rN9lKdkyqijdZK28LZsjrt14J2bPkYnx


(2)
on K.D. Rao
http://www.journalofastrology.com/pages/about_knrao.htm

k.n. rao's chart
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?wgid=wgeJwVTssKwjAQ_Bpva8mmVqthzyKighfP2yY0QZOWNqX0790yl2GY1xK-gbTpIjGaZOnNPdyLZwERUAMqwHOJoE6X6gC-cqWCbp5AwYNbH35h4Jw4wi3ZwFCjUzXgMUlsFo_AsG3E4Gjr3Gkl9ZtkOTtCLcKrzX3jRmHbkGnyOsidmD1xXoyfVtqjGSfCz_UPqnQyvg

Poetry Corner: The Dream Weaver's String Palette

Love's birth, joyfully dancing in the musical
with the ignorance of a little knowledge
giving birth to the conception of self
the light of sunrise demanding
to dare to dream

silver-blue moonbeams shine on shape-shifting forms
the wisps of allegory rising from the mist
whispering secrets in ever earnest ears
haunting sleepers
to dare to dream

collecting colorful pebbles along the path
butterfly wings spin swirling colors in search
of the quintessential flavors of life's essence
reminding the messenger
to dare to dream

polarized for magnetic attraction
legs entwining without beginning or end
in unison, music and romance grace the dance floor
seducing even distant lover's
to dare to dream

releasing the push beyond rational reason
before blood curdling heat boils over liver red
growth's needs disregarding multiple perspectives
forcing the living
to dare to dream

echos from distant shores of why
there are unanswerable whys
and few grails worthy of the holy search
igniting all explorers
to dare to dream

enduring quietly in the lair of wisdom's growth
laid bare in celestial contemplation
feeding the ancestral tree of tradition
rooted in the strength
to dare to dream

humanity's quantum chaos stringing lives together
as electrical storms charge the heavens
illuminating neon insanity
awaiting inspired genius
to dare to dream

lifetimes spent searching to ride the perfect wave
to Poseidon's salty embrace
rising from below conscious depths
inviting the surfer
to dare to dream

icy swords slice illusions' veils
exposing hidden hearts truths
encasing passions flames reserved for the brave
the caged bird finally set free
to dare to make dreams real

Chiron and Scar Tissue

I thought this response to a fellow astrologer friend worthy of sharing.

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When I did EMDR, my therapist could lower the intensity of what I felt when thinking of certain things from the past, but she couldn't get me down to a zero level of feeling. When she asked me why I thought this was, I responded that some things ideally shouldn't happen to anyone. Maybe I am just far too idealistic for reality.

I think that forgiveness is a huge part of healing, it is something we do for ourselves because it makes our personal load much lighter. But, forgiveness doesn't make the wound go away completely.
To use the example of rape, since it being brought up inspired me to write this, even if the rapist is forgiven by the victim, does it erase the experience of it for that victim? If a child forgives a rejecting parent, does it fill the gap?
hence the idea that the experience leaves us, "misshapen"... the wounding leaves scar tissue. I think Chiron is like our scar tissue

Chiron's path crosses inside the orbit of Saturn.
The skin is linked to the lungs and large intestine... Saturn.
Wounds to it, things that cross that boundary, tend to leave scar tissue. Abstraction might say that I can find a point of healing that is as if the wound never happened. Reality might say that there will be a scar.

Chiron also crosses outside the orbit of Uranus. As the first outer planet, Uranus is the boundary where, in regard to the planets, we meet the collective (the others).  Just like we personally risk wounds in our interactions and receive healing through others, we can't help but also play a role in the scar tissue of others, both the wounding and healing.